December 30, 2006
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Get It While It's Hot
Yes, get it while it's hot....my vicarious response to the death of Saddam Hussein, and to Xcholo4u's recent post about it.
December 30, 2006
The Independent (UK)A Dictator Created Then Destroyed by America
Robert FiskSaddam to the gallows. It was an easy
equation. Who could be more deserving of that last walk to the scaffold - that
crack of the neck at the end of a rope - than the Beast of Baghdad, the Hitler
of the Tigris, the man who murdered untold hundreds of thousands of innocent
Iraqis while spraying chemical weapons over his enemies? Our masters will tell
us in a few hours that it is a "great day" for Iraqis and will hope that the
Muslim world will forget that his death sentence was signed - by the Iraqi
"government", but on behalf of the Americans - on the very eve of the Eid
al-Adha, the Feast of the Sacrifice, the moment of greatest forgiveness in the
Arab world.But history will record that the Arabs and other Muslims and,
indeed, many millions in the West, will ask another question this weekend, a
question that will not be posed in other Western newspapers because it is not
the narrative laid down for us by our presidents and prime ministers - what
about the other guilty men?No, Tony Blair is not Saddam. We don't gas
our enemies. George W Bush is not Saddam. He didn't invade Iran or Kuwait. He
only invaded Iraq. But hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians are dead - and
thousands of Western troops are dead - because Messrs Bush and Blair and the
Spanish Prime Minister and the Italian Prime Minister and the Australian Prime
Minister went to war in 2003 on a potage of lies and mendacity and, given the
weapons we used, with great brutality.In the aftermath of the
international crimes against humanity of 2001 we have tortured, we have
murdered, we have brutalised and killed the innocent - we have even added our
shame at Abu Ghraib to Saddam's shame at Abu Ghraib - and yet we are supposed to
forget these terrible crimes as we applaud the swinging corpse of the dictator
we created.Who encouraged Saddam to invade Iran in 1980, which was the
greatest war crime he has committed for it led to the deaths of a million and a
half souls? And who sold him the components for the chemical weapons with which
he drenched Iran and the Kurds? We did. No wonder the Americans, who controlled
Saddam's weird trial, forbad any mention of this, his most obscene atrocity, in
the charges against him. Could he not have been handed over to the Iranians for
sentencing for this massive war crime? Of course not. Because that would also
expose our culpability.And the mass killings we perpetrated in 2003 with
our depleted uranium shells and our "bunker buster" bombs and our phosphorous,
the murderous post-invasion sieges of Fallujah and Najaf, the hell-disaster of
anarchy we unleashed on the Iraqi population in the aftermath of our "victory" -
our "mission accomplished" - who will be found guilty of this? Such expiation as
we might expect will come, no doubt, in the self-serving memoirs of Blair and
Bush, written in comfortable and wealthy retirement.Hours before
Saddam's death sentence, his family - his first wife, Sajida, and Saddam's
daughter and their other relatives - had given up hope."Whatever could
be done has been done - we can only wait for time to take its course," one of
them said last night. But Saddam knew, and had already announced his own
"martyrdom": he was still the president of Iraq and he would die for Iraq. All
condemned men face a decision: to die with a last, grovelling plea for mercy or
to die with whatever dignity they can wrap around themselves in their last hours
on earth. His last trial appearance - that wan smile that spread over the
mass-murderer's face - showed us which path Saddam intended to walk to the
noose.I have catalogued his monstrous crimes over the years. I have
talked to the Kurdish survivors of Halabja and the Shia who rose up against the
dictator at our request in 1991 and who were betrayed by us - and whose
comrades, in their tens of thousands, along with their wives, were hanged like
thrushes by Saddam's executioners.I have walked round the execution
chamber of Abu Ghraib - only months, it later transpired, after we had been
using the same prison for a few tortures and killings of our own - and I have
watched Iraqis pull thousands of their dead relatives from the mass graves of
Hilla. One of them has a newly-inserted artificial hip and a medical
identification number on his arm. He had been taken directly from hospital to
his place of execution. Like Donald Rumsfeld, I have even shaken the dictator's
soft, damp hand. Yet the old war criminal finished his days in power writing
romantic novels.It was my colleague, Tom Friedman - now a messianic
columnist for The New York Times - who perfectly caught Saddam's character just
before the 2003 invasion: Saddam was, he wrote, "part Don Corleone, part Donald
Duck". And, in this unique definition, Friedman caught the horror of all
dictators; their sadistic attraction and the grotesque, unbelievable nature of
their barbarity.But that is not how the Arab world will see him. At
first, those who suffered from Saddam's cruelty will welcome his execution.
Hundreds wanted to pull the hangman's lever. So will many other Kurds and Shia
outside Iraq welcome his end. But they - and millions of other Muslims - will
remember how he was informed of his death sentence at the dawn of the Eid
al-Adha feast, which recalls the would-be sacrifice by Abraham, of his son, a
commemoration which even the ghastly Saddam cynically used to celebrate by
releasing prisoners from his jails. "Handed over to the Iraqi authorities," he
may have been before his death. But his execution will go down - correctly - as
an American affair and time will add its false but lasting gloss to all this -
that the West destroyed an Arab leader who no longer obeyed his orders from
Washington, that, for all his wrongdoing (and this will be the terrible get-out
for Arab historians, this shaving away of his crimes) Saddam died a "martyr" to
the will of the new "Crusaders".When he was captured in November of
2003, the insurgency against American troops increased in ferocity. After his
death, it will redouble in intensity again. Freed from the remotest possibility
of Saddam's return by his execution, the West's enemies in Iraq have no reason
to fear the return of his Baathist regime. Osama bin Laden will certainly
rejoice, along with Bush and Blair. And there's a thought. So many crimes
avenged.But we will have got away with it.
Comments (44)
For sure. The US is guilty of all that and more. True, true. As much as I was glad to see the bastard die, I did admire and respect the fact that he refused to have a hood placed on his head and also said, "God is great" as his final goodbye.
RYC: Ha! Sorry to disappoint you John. By the way, most of that alcohol comes from people bringing a bottle when they come over and it not getting consumed. I'm not much of a drinker. And no, only one of my peers (management) has ever come over to my house. Middle aged businessmen are too stuffy for that. Most of them are employees of the company I work for who I've gotten to know over the years. They are usually between 19 and 30.
"Who encouraged Saddam to invade Iran in 1980, which was the greatest war crime he has committed for it led to the deaths of a million and a half souls?"
Shhh!!! You're not supposed to bring that up!
RYC: Ha!
Too scary to think about.
Yuck. Bloodlust. I'm throwing away the newspaper before my kid sees it.
(I just hope I can be as dignified when my time comes.) Why does anyone want to get into politics? Are there really some who think they can make a difference?
A monster, yes...one that our country, the "In God We Trust" nation, helped to put into power....what a sad comentary on us and on mankind. How gleefully we have announced and rejoiced at another's death...rather bloodthirsty aren't we? As if his death will atone or bring back those he murdered! And we are such a CHRISTIAN nation! After all, our president has read the Bible all the way through...twice! Whoopeee for all who follow Jesus's teaching....love one another...guess we christians loved him all the way to his final death throe's at the end of that rope! How many of you prayed for him?
ugh, the whole thing is so creepy. i can't believe they actually have videos up of sadaam getting executed. it's not like watching a movie, it's real life which is so sick.
yes, lucky us. we will be caught up to, though. it scares me.
you said we, , , you mean jr dont you. . .
i got an email i guess it was yesterday morning, , , i didnt post anything about it, , , i figured everyone else would, , , i havent seen any video yet, , , the closest thing to video ive seen is the pics on morgans site, , , i havent even watched tv either, , , i take that back, , , i saw a few minutes at the bus station when i went to pick up sillylauta.
good grief, , , 6:03, , , im going to bed.
ryc: i knew you'd be the one to notice that comment!
John, you know I'm no fan of Georgie W.... by any means, so I hope this doesn't shock you when I say that I lost no sleep knowing Saddam was finally going to meet his "maker."
Perhaps... Karma, the three fold law.. finally caught up with him.
One can only hope that if he is re-incarnated that he will come back a much better human being. *le' sigh*
As far as this country being a "Christian" nation... I don't see it. I don't see the majority of people 'walking the walk' so to speak. Personally, I wish there were less 'religion' and more 'spirituality' with humanity. If people were more spiritual, and less narrow minded about 'religion' we might actually learn to co-exist and love one another, and help one another... as we were created to.
justsayin.......
Mucho love to you and a blessed New Year!
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~Namaste~
yes i did, she said to tell you hi.
the reggaetonrapper is my youngest son.
morganfreebase is a blogger somewhere out around modesto california as far as i can tell. i have never met him personally.
ryc: thanks. you and bhodi are the only two people who helped me out on that iss ue at all.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year to you John.
Interesting, thought-provoking post! Thanks for sharing...
Robert Fisk is a journalist for whom I have no respect whatsoever; so excuse me for not reading that part of your blog. I am right now though listening to Richard Bona. I'm thrilled to find some nice new music I don't know about. I listen to a lot of African music (I use to review it, professionally) and several of my fave musicians are from the Cameroons. Got any other good African/World recommendations?
Happy New Year
Sorry, used wrong id. I'm Savondujour/Petra
"So do your two sons both live with you down there in Nuevo Laredo"
sorry, i think i neglected to answer this question, , , they live with me in san antonio tx, , , the reggaetonrapper lived with me in nuevo laredo, amazingdoggo lived next door but we knocked a hole in the wall to make the two apts one kind of. (we repaired the hole when we left) i just felt it was time i get the reggaetonrapper out of mexico and let him go to an american school. i really should have done it sooner, , , our one apt here in san antonio costs more than the two in nuevo laredo, , , about the same as adding a third and fourth one in nuevo laredo, , , so me and amazingdoggo are sharing the rent. and the cable/internet, etc, , , makes a lot of sense to us and nobody really bothers the other ones, , , so, , , as long as that stays intact, , , , , ,
i made one more video while sillylauta was/is here. it should be posted after midnite, this one also has the reggaetonrapper and amazingdoggo in it, , , and sillylauta is heading back to nuevo laredo later tonight.
shes cute, , , and friendly, , , but i can stand only so much of her. if you knew her you would surely understand.
happy new year.
thank you so much for what you said, it really helped me to see something nice in the morning. stay blessed, lestina
RYC: Happy New Year to you, Mr Eccentrique. Hey I always read. I just don't always comment. Sometimes I am just too stupid to say anything, and even when I do I doubt it makes much sense.
ryc: I clicked on the Amazon link, liked what I heard, so dl 7 or 8 tracks on Winmx (its not illegal here
). (Since you ask 'specifically' what I listened to: Mbanga Ku, Sona Mama, Liberty City, Calcabao de Copacabana, Te Dikalo, and Mary). I was quite excited when I saw New Bell, I thought it might be a version of Manu Dibango's, but no, it was quite good though. Some of the songs had a Brazilian sound to them, a Gilberto Gil influence anyway.
I haven't really kept up with Sally Nyolo since her Zap Mama days, although I have Bump It, which is, I think, quite new. Francis Jocky rang a bell, but it was an old bell - Evoloko Jocker, whom I used to really, really love and have only an old cassette of his, nothing else. Manu Dibango was my favourite musician for years. I once did a long interview with him.
I am out of the loop here for African in the Caribbean. So I tend to listen to my faves over and over again. Current faves are Papa Wemba, Pierre Akendengue, Oumou Sangare, Tshala Mouana and (always) Toumani Diabate.
What else nice new stuff can you recommend me?
Yeah--when we hang Saddam, we should hang ourselves too--we put him into power.
Just like Osama. We gave that rat bag the power too.
It's just like people who get aggressive dogs--then make them vicious. They LOVE it when the dogs attack other people that they don't like..but when the dog turns on them or their kid--listen to them bitch and scream.
Yep
Saddam was a nasty, vicious, rabid monster--but he was OUR nasty vicious, rabid monster.
"When I reflect that God is Just, I tremble for my country."
ryc: Thank you. While typing that awful post, I remembered back a couple or 3 months ago posting something similar. It's a problem we have monthly. He's worse than a woman with raging hormones when it comes to paying bills. I haven't forgotten you offer!
ryc: rafiki is the crazy baboon in the lion king.
lol, i just think that not dating would be better i mean im still growing spritually and i think the temptation during dating would be hard andi feel like if im not dating ill have time to move closer to god. by the way which college did you go to/ and was it really hard?
i forgot to say happy new year, so happy new year. stay blessed
no recommendations obviously. Sad.
WOW, that remark made me jump! ryc No, I'm not, I'm very laid back, but you got back to me very fast on my original music comment so I thought I might have something else interesting to dl quite soon.
hey John call me late i just read your profile and cool you were a firemen, they are so cool they save lifes cops just pick on teenagers,did you ever save anyone if you dont mind me asking? stay blessed, lestina
ryc: i'm not a fan of stephen king. daniel recommnded a book by him months ago, and since i'd run out of books to read, i took him up on the suggestion a few nights ago. its the only book i ever plan to read by stephen king, trust me.
oh well thanx again i didnt realize i removed the message me thing it might b b/c i got the free 21 day premuim thing do you know how i could get it back, well if you dont know this is my email oreo4life33@hotmail.com. stay blessed ,lestina
"And who sold him the components for the chemical weapons with which he drenched Iran and the Kurds? We did"
Well no we didn't. Most of the rest of this is equally full of shit. But experience tells me that a long documented reply here will not change the minds of people that have never looked into any of this for themselves.
It is the lie you want to believe, so why waste my time. Unless you really have an open mind about it?
Of course a fool such as you knows it all
point one we sold Iraq the ability to make chemical weapons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
If you know how to read you will notice it was not the USA.
I can take almost every point in this ignorant article apart. But so could you if you knew how to verify information. I fear you are not in my league in this sort of thing. And much to close mined to learn from me. It would just be a war of wits with the unarmed and I would just hate to do that do you. But if I am am wrong, come over for the education.
Hell after I teach you how to think, you can teach me better writing skills.
It's amazing how total strangers will feel free to just suddenly visit your blog and start calling you a fool. This young lady's arrogance is truly remarkable. I'm leaving her comments here for the time being, but she has been advised to not waste any more of her precious time on me.
Why is that Liberals are in love with self-loathing?
ryc: you? a passing infatuation? never.
"Trun, you ignorant slut" LOL I saw that on a rerun of Saturday Night Live.
I can get you other sources with the same information. Are you saying that computers and and biological samples qualifies as being the source of Iraqi WMD program? The fact that both of us are probably communicating over computers of greater power belies that foolishness. Biological samples are availably to almost any nation that has a vaccine program. Iraq had such a program, as any nation of over 25 million should. Again you ignored the fact that the all the equipment, hardware, precursor chemicals, were German, French and Russian.
The USA was not a supplier of weapons or components to Iraq and never was. Your First "mountain of evidence" turns out to be a lie.
They are almost all lies, but I would expect to be blocked before we got through any more of them. Do you want another "mountain" torn up, or is the destruction of ignorance painful to you?
"Your time is much too precious to waste on the likes of me."
True, but I can be sadistic at times. And there is alway the chance that you are not a mindless lover of propaganda, that you only assume the role on line.
ryc: it's okay, i'm glad I've spared the eyes of many a poor wandering xangan.
RYC:Ecc, after seeing 6 relatives die of a very painful battle with cancer, I lean towards that slippery slope as well. I dont think I'd mind you being dictator of the world
Wow, oh wow. What a great post!
My only thoughts, before the execution were "why are we doing this on a Muslim religious holiday" and "why are we making this man a Martyr". But I'm being face with a lot of people who aren't getting this at all. They're actually rejoicing that Saddam is dead! Rejoicing in fact, similar to what some Muslims rejoiced on 9/11 (remember the TV pictures of dancing in the streets?). That makes us as bad as, if not worse, IMO. I cannot celebrate this death. Saddam was a brutal dictator, but the "part Don Corleone and part Donald Duck" describes him perfectly. S
Hi,
I would like to say to "ryc" that I probably don't know what cameroon music is, but after listen to Francis Jocky's Album "Mr Pain", I can assure you that this guy is the best thing that's happen to African Music for long time. Now don't ask me if it's African Music or not, who cares, this is fabulous music. I luv it ...
Happy Good Year 2007 to all the music lovers
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