September 21, 2009
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A Socialist Healthcare Horror Story
You’ll probably want to read this one to the very end for the surprise finale. It’s actually an e-mail that was sent to a friend of mine in 2007, from a gentleman in France. Every word is true; nothing is made up or altered.
Socialist healthcare horror story
by Jerome a Paris
Fri Apr 20, 2007 at 09:15:40 AM PDTAs the next exam for my son gets near (next week), I though I’d provide
a short summary of my family’s dealings with a socialist, centralised,
single-payer healthcare system.As a reminder, my (then 4 years old) son was diagnosed 2 and a half
years ago with a brain tumor. He underwent surgery, then chemotherapy
for a year and a half. Early last year, he appeared to have been cured,
but the tumor reappeared last autumn, and he underwent radiotherapy
this winter.Next week we’ll know how that is working.
In the meantime, as a consequence of surgery, he is handicapped and only very partial use of one arm.
He was first diagnosed by our pediatrician, a private sector doctor,
who sent us to the (public) specialised pediatric hospital in Paris for
additional exams. We did a scan and a MRI the same day, and that
brought the diagnosis we know.He was hospitalised the same day, with surgery immediately scheduled
for two days later. At that point, we only had to provide our social
security number.Surgery – an act that the doctor that performed it (one of the world’s
top specialists in his field) told us he would not have done it five
years before – actually took place the next week, because emergency
cases came up in the meantime.After a few days at the hospital, we went home. At that point, we had
spent no money, and done little more than filling up a simple form with
name and social security number.Meetings with the doctor in charge of his long term treatment, and with
a specialised re-education hospital, were immediately set up, and
chemiotherapy and physical therapy were scheduled for the next full
year.Physical therapy included a few hours each day in a specialised
hospital, with a varied team of specialists (kinesitherapy,
ergotherapy, phychologist, orthophonist) and, had we needed it,
schooling. As we lived not too far away, we tried to keep our son at
his pre-school for half the day, and at the hospital the other half.
Again, apart from filling up a few forms, we had nothing to do.My wife pretty much stopped working to take my son to the hospital
every day (either for reeducation or treatment) – and was allocated a
stipend by the government as caregiver, for a full year (equal to just
under the minimum wage). Had we needed it, transport by ambulance would
have been taken care of, free of charge for us (as it were, car
commutes to the hospital could also be reimbursed).During the chemotherapy, if he had any side effects (his immune system
being weakened, any normal children’s disease basically required him to
be hospitalised to be given full anti-biotic treatment), we’d call up
the hospital and just come around. Either of us could spend the night
with him as needed.We never spent a dime.
After a year at the specialised hospital, ongoing re-education was moved to another institution
specialised in home and school interventions.In practice, a full team of 5 doctors or specialists come to see him
over the week, either at home or at school, to continue his treatment
(such follow up, possibly less intense than at the beginning, will be
needed until he reaches his adult size). Of course, they manufacture
braces and other specialised equipment for him and provide it free of
charge to us.Check up exams take place every 3 months, with all the appropriate
exams (usually including a MRI), and we’ve never had to wait for the
appointments.Again, no cost for us, no funds to be fronted.
When he relapsed, our doctors considered all available options. In the
end, the most promising technology was in another Paris hospital. Such
technology, linked to nuclear research, exists only in 3 places in the
world, one in Boston and one in Switzerland, so the French system
itself was able to provide a cutting edge option. But had we needed to
go to Germany, the UK or even the USA for treatment because that’s
where the best hope was, the costs of that would have been covered too
by French social security.Our son is in first grade, he has the right to special help for
handicapped children at school (a fairly recent law), and he now
benefits from part time help – a person who is around about 20 hours
per week to help him do his work and catch up when he is absent for his
therapy. This is paid by the city of Paris and the ministry of
education.Oh, and as he is officially handicapped, I recently discovered that we
actually benefit from an additional tax break (in France, the taxes you
pay are roughly divided by the number of people in the family; the
handicap counts as an additional person for that purpose).So, we did not have to spend a single cent. We got support to be
available for him. He gets top notch treatment. We never had to wait
for anything. And this is available to absolutely everybody in France,
irrespective of your job, age or family situation. If you are badly
sick or injured, you simply do not have to worry about money at any
time, nor about lack of care.An interesting twist to that story is that we do have private
healthcare insurance in France. Basic healthcare is covered by social
security, but only partly: except for the poor (under a certain income
level), there are co-payments for most expenses like medecine and
doctor visits, and doctors are also allowed to charge you more than the
official tariff (and you have to pay the difference, in addition to the
co-payment on the official price). Thus many people buy private (or
mutual) insurance to cover that difference partly or fully. Such
insurance is often provided by your employer. But whenever you have
“major” expenses, you switch to 100% coverage of expenses by the public
system – except that, if you had a private insurer, it has to pay to
the public entity a portion of the costs. In my case, as I had a good
insurance via my bank, this is what’s happening, and thus the private
sector bears a portion of “catastrophic risk.” (And they have no say in
what care is provided. They just pay an agreed fraction of it.)Thus there is solidarity across the system.
This is not to say that all is well in French healthcare. As in other
countries, costs are barely under control, spending increases every
year, and there are many ways the system could be improved for doctors,
nurses and patients. But the fact remains that if you are badly ill,
you will be taken care of; you will not need to give up your job (or if
you do, you’re helped); you will not need to sell your house; and you
will not be denied healthcare (see my second comment below).It’s been tough enough to deal with a sick child; I simply do not want
to imagine what it would have been like if I had to beg for care or to
scurry around for money in addition.It’s just inconceivable. And thus, I was happy to pay taxes before, and
I’m really, really happy to pay taxes now to provide that level of care
for those who really need it.
Comments (7)
ive mentioned many times,, we have socialist health care in mexico,,, we have private health care in mexico as well,,, you dont contribute to health care taxes if you are not partaking of socialized health care..
im not,, so i dont,, ive heard there is a plan i could enroll in,, but so far,, ive probably saved money by taking care of myself,, altho the insurance is not expensive… there is no doubt in my mind a months premium for you in the us would not equal a years premium for me….
how the main socialist system is paid for,, i dont have a clue.. never looked into it…
what is missing in this article is,,, are doctors and hospitals in france sued at the drop of a hat?
any system,,,, health care or other wise,,, can easily be dismantled when there is a war to see who gains the most money,,, the vendor or the consumer…
most of the cost in the us is what i would call protection money. for the doctors,, and hospitals,, ambulances, clinics,,,
when a 50 dollar proceedure winds up costing the dr 50 million dollars,,, uh,,, somethings wrong… whos gonna pay that 50 million dollars? the insurance company… the insurance company is going to make a profit too,,, an increase in rates is highly likely….
yea,, i made those figures up,, but i dont feel they are over exhagerated…
i somehow dont feel mexicos situation,, or frances situation would reflect on the us situation…
another something ive been pondering,,,
tort reform wont be discussed right now…
suppose we get our socialized health care and all of a sudden ears is in the insurance business,,,,
do you suppose you or i would be allowed to sue him? i somehow think not.
as much as our fearless leaders fear ,,, or say they fear,,, trial lawyers,,, i think their attitude would change at that point.
wa la,, a struggling business is now a booming monopoly,,, all income and very little outgo,,,,
do you believe new rates will reflect trial lawyers are now out of the equation? or do you believe rates will stabalize at the higher rate?
if you can collect a 50 million dollar premium,,, and pay a 50 dollar claim,,, hahahahaha
i know what i think. hahahahahaha
I originally posted a lengthy reply here, but since it was poorly edited and I wanted to add a lot more links, I’ve expanded it and moved it to my own Xanga Weblog, ApocalypseSoon .
A summary of my reply is that the story Eccentrique posted is crapaganda being spread by sites such as Daily Kos and other places that only liberal left-wingnuts would trust.
Disgusted with the Obamanation’s Scheme to Deform US Health Care,
— ApocalypseSoon
See, something positive is propaganda, something negative is the truth about how it will be… Have to love unbiased thinking…
@ApocalypseSoon - Hate to let you in on a little secret but it’s got to be done: US Health Care? Already deformed.
Funny thing about all this great health care in France–it costs a lot less to administer than our “private” care in the U.S.:
“U.S. health insurance companies have the highest administrative costs in the world; they spend roughly 20 cents of every dollar for nonmedical costs, such as paperwork, reviewing claims and marketing. France’s health insurance industry, in contrast, covers everybody and spends about 4 percent on administration.”
http://tiny.cc/healthmyth
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